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Supernatural writer Ben Edlund interview ✍️ The man who literally wrote the words “denim-wrapped nightmares” joins Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural rewatch podcast.

In a bonus episode recorded before their Season 8 finale discussion, Berly and LA sit down with Ben Edlund, creator of The Tick and a writer on Angel and Firefly. He wrote 24 Supernatural episodes across Seasons 2 through 8. He’s a delightfully rambling genius, and the hosts loved every tangent, from Bat Boy to the Steely Dan production mode.

Episode Highlights:

• Getting Season 1 on a box of VHS tapes, and joining a “muscle car, bro-y” show as the resident chaos agent
• The Bat Boy pitch Kripke turned down for Tall Tales
• Why Andy and Bobby should have stuck around for story leverage, and why Ronald’s death in Nightshifter earns its keep
• Bela Talbot’s origin: a hunter who asks, “What’s in it for me?”
• Cracking Monster Movie, and Todd Stashwick taking every second 100% seriously
• Ben on vocals: the Ghostfacers theme song, pitched to Kripke in falsetto (and the web series Austin Basis sent the hosts)
• The French Mistake’s original pitch, Kripke’s meta twist, and what happened to the other Jared and Jensen
• Abandon All Hope: who decided Ellen and Jo’s fate, and why Bobby burned the photo
• Repo Man, human evil, and the dog he’d probably spare today
• Leaving after Season 8, the tablets, and why Metatron is “the only Transformer in the Bible”

Ben also wants an Aaron and the Golem spinoff as much as Berly does, and he confirms the hosts aren’t the only ones caught up in Supernatural. LA’s verdict: she loves him, and she wishes everyone could see the shelf behind him. Plus, a thank-you to the Bobby-tier patrons.

“I’m so happy that there are other people out there equally caught up in made-up shit.” – Ben Edlund

Your turn, hunters: Which Ben Edlund episode is your favorite? And what really happened to the other Jared and Jensen from The French Mistake? Tell us in the Spotify comments, leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts (it’s how new hunters find us), or send us fan mail. Bonus points for fandom fun facts we missed.

Footnote: Since the recording of this interview, Berly and LA have, in fact, cried during another one of their episodes.

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Denim-wrapped Nightmares is a Supernatural rewatch podcast hosted by Berly and LA, breaking down every episode of the Winchester saga with lore deep-dives plus cast and crew interviews. Special thanks to David Fesliyan and Fesliyan Studios.