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Upsight Vision, Human Potential, and Building a Deep Future with Tom Matte and Pablos Holman (Ep. 194)
Episode 194
In this episode, I kick things off with some midweek mayhem, then dive into a riveting two-guest lineup exploring human potential and world-shaping tech. First up is Tom Matte, whose life-changing recovery sparked a phenomenon he calls Upsight Vision—the ability to see and interact with holographic-like imagery that reveals subconscious signals and symbolic patterns. We discuss how he uses this capacity in 1:1 sessions to help people uncover blocks, navigate decisions, and interpret recurring archetypes—plus the forthcoming academic paper from the Institute of Noetic Sciences analyzing his EEG data. Tom’s journey from crisis to consulting is a powerful look at transformation, intuition, and the edge of cognitive science.
In hour two, inventor and futurist Pablos Holman joins to talk creating technology that matters, from Blue Origin’s early days to factory automation, energy breakthroughs, and how AI becomes a creative copilot rather than a replacement. We get into practical optimism: choosing problems worth solving, voting with your life’s work, and why the future needs all of us—not just scientists and coders, but builders, operators, and sellers too. Pablos shares insights from his new book, Deep Future, and why embracing fast-evolving tools (robots, AI, and more) can help us build a better world faster.
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(00:03:37) Cold open, theme, and a rocky start
(00:04:02) Host intro, housekeeping, and live show setup
(00:09:08) Community engagement, contact info, and support model
(00:10:37) Guest 1 intro: Tom Matt and the origin of Upside Vision
(00:16:50) From addiction to a new perception: defining Upside Vision
(00:24:35) Interpreting holographic images, limits, and uses
(00:32:16) Live readings, symbolism, and session flow
(00:37:37) Wellness, grounding practices, and empathic effects
(00:43:46) Archetypes, animals, and cultural meaning in readings
(00:50:26) EEG findings and what the science suggests
(00:56:14) Human evolution, Akashic ideas, and possible futures
(01:00:13) Takeaways, book plug, and how to learn more
(01:01:41) Break and interlude
(01:06:00) Hour 2 kickoff and sponsor mention
(01:07:11) Guest 2 intro: Pablo Holman on inventing the future
(01:12:40) From hacker roots to Blue Origin and long horizons
(01:16:47) Choosing problems that matter: energy, health, scale
(01:20:20) From crazy idea to working prototype
(01:22:15) Deep Future: the book, podcast, and mission
(01:24:34) Robotics reality check: fingertips, fabric, and factories
(01:27:10) Beyond software: bringing hard tech to life
(01:30:10) Personal stories, a
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