Episode Details

Phil Perry is joined by former New England Patriots defensive back Darius Butler to talk about the Stephon Gilmore trade, and whether J.C. Jackson is a number one corner in his mind. Plus, how does an in-season move of a top player affect the locker room?

13:15 Phil breaks down what went into the decision to trade Gilmore, including some behind-the-scenes info

18:30 Butler talks about why he wouldn't have given Gilmore a big contract

20:20 Butler on if he sees Jackson as a true number one

26:40 Butler on how in-season moves impact the locker room

29:20 Phil talks about Mac Jones making progress, despite some very questionable decisions on Sunday vs Houston

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