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Will Robins: How PGA Science Helps You Recover from Burnout
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Burnout hides best inside people who love their work so much they don’t notice it draining the life out of them.
PGA coach and RGX founder Will Robins joins Cait to unpack how devotion to service can turn into slow-motion burnout, especially when you’re praised for being endlessly available. He shares how surviving the 2004 tsunami gave him purpose, but years later COVID thrust him into a different kind of survival mode, fielding nonstop crisis calls from golf pros worldwide. Passion became obligation, generosity became emotional labor, and saying yes became his default until resentment started to seep in. Together, he and Cait expose how burnout isn’t about workload—it’s about tension, expectations, and the belief that being needed equals being valuable.
They map a way back through honest boundaries, aligned priorities, and Will’s Scoring Method as a metaphor for life: stop swinging for perfection and focus on consistent, pressure-free plays. You'll hear practical language for saying no without guilt, a reframing of stress as a physical reaction rather than a personal failing, and a challenge to stop optimizing your recovery like another achievement project. If you're the “reliable one” who keeps muscling through, this episode invites you to build a life where people need you less, and love you more because of it.
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Burnout and Purpose After Surviving the Tsunami
02:45 COVID Burnout and the Cost of Constant Service
08:04 Why High Performers Miss Burnout Signs
11:47 Burnout Culture in the Golf Industry and Beyond
17:31 Rebuilding Life with Faith, Health, and Family
21:02 Setting Boundaries Without Guilt
32:02 The Scoring Method for Life and Burnout
36:00 Mastering Emotional Regulation
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Cait Donovan is a keynote speaker, author, and host of FRIED: The Burnout Podcast, specializing in burnout, mis/match, and sustainable performance at work. She partners with corporate leaders, teams, and professional associations through keynotes, workshops, and leadership sessions that treat burnout as data, not failure, to help organizations reduce burnout without blame or shame and build healthier, high performing cultures.
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