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The Two Forces That Could Break Bitcoin: AI vs Quantum with MartinShkreli
Episode 38
A couple months ago, I co-hosted an X space with Layer Two Labs re: “Should Bitcoiners care about quantum computing?”
You can imagine our surprise when (in?)famous tech investor Martin Shkreli arrived to share that he’s been researching this very question for years… and dropped that he’s been personally considering raising funds to hire a team of mathematicians to hack Satoshi’s Coins.
In this episode, Martin and I explore the limits of Bitcoin’s security model and the two forces he believes could potentially challenge it: a computational path driven by advances in quantum hardware, and/or a mathematical path fueled by AI-assisted discovery.
This interview additionally shares takes on:
- Why hacking Bitcoin would be the "ultimate" mathematical achievement—and why hacking Satoshi’s coins should be considered a “bug bounty” for Bitcoin
- Why quantum may be more problematic for Bitcoin than for the traditional tech world (e.g. why quantum doesn’t likely threaten NVIDIA)
- The little known history of Bitcoin’s “overflow bug” (yup, Bitcoin *has* been hacked before… an exploit corrected by hard fork).
- And of course, why mathematicians do their deepest work in prison 😉
As always, this episode of Bitcoin Rails can be viewed on YouTube or Spotify via the link available in my bio—and is brought to you with the help of my incredible partners:
- Best In Slot – the leading API for Ordinals and BRC20 data aggregation and indexing
- Spark – a statechains implementation leading the path towards institutional adoption of Bitcoin-powered payments
- Citrea – the leading Bitcoin rollup technology and contributor to the BitVM alliance
📷 Timestamps
00:00 Intro
02:57 Quantum Supremacy and Google’s Breakthroughs
05:02 Bitcoin’s Cryptographic Vulnerabilities
08:24 Studying Math and Cryptography Behind Bars
20:04 Governance and the Culture of Bitcoin Development
26:29 The Future of Quantum and AI in Cryptography
37:42 Hardware Challenges and Fidelity in Quantum
47:57 Game Theory and the Quantum Race
01:04:08 Bitcoin Recovery and the Quantum Security Question
01:08:38 Mathematical Challenges in Breaking Cryptography
01:15:08 The Role of AI in Future Mathematical Breakthroughs
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