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 For every dollar of open payments money that goes into a hospital staff, there’s $7 of increase in spend on average to those firms. In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade talks transparency & action as they relate to The 2025 Open Payments Report with Aaron Narva, CEO of Conflixis. Hear why you shouldn’t underestimate the impact of conflicts, how to know your healthcare data better than anyone else, how to use your healthcare data as a strategic advantage, why there’s a systemic problem, and the ice cream truck example. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com