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How Thin Is the Line Between Patriotism and Nationalism?

Curtis Chang and David French take a hard look at the rise of Christian nationalism and its growing influence on American faith and politics. They unpack how this ideology blurs the line between patriotism and nationalism, reshaping evangelical identity and challenging both biblical and constitutional values. Drawing from history and theology—from January 6th to modern evangelical movements—they reveal how love of country can be redeemed from the distortions of fear and power. Listeners are invited to reflect on what true patriotism looks like for followers of Jesus in a divided America.

(02:30) - Understanding Christian Nationalism in America

(11:03) - Defining Christian Nationalism in America

(17:37) - The Emotional Identity of Lived Out Christian Nationalism

(26:17) - Challenging American Identity and History

(33:43) - America's Story and a Universal "us"?

(36:30) - The Competing Stories of 1619 and 1776

(44:18) - C.S. Lewis on Patriotism and Nationalism

(48:56) - American Identity, Patriotism, and Protecting Others

(55:45) - Security About the Truth of America

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry's Taking America Back For God
• Thomas Kidd's Christian Nationalism vs. Christian Patriotism (article)

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