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Signals from the Deep: Data Bunkers, UN & the Future of Shipping with guest Øistein Jensen Chief Sustainability Officer Odfjell

Signals from the Deep: Data Bunkers, UN & the Future of Shipping with guest Øistein Jensen Chief Sustainability Officer Odfjell

Season 1 Episode 9 Published 6 months, 4 weeks ago
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Episode Overview

Graeme Codrington (Johannesburg) and Dean Van Leeuwen (South of London) explore fresh “grey elephant” signals—from subterranean data centres and living with a >2°C world, to UN reform rumblings—then sit down with Øistein Jensen, Chief Sustainability Officer at Oddfjell, to unpack how a 110-year-old global chemical shipping company is tackling decarbonisation, supply-chain due diligence, and industry-wide collaboration.

Key Topics Discussed

Grey Elephants Radar

  • Converging, high-impact forces post-COVID; a once-in-a-century transformation.
  • Strategy lens: identify weak signals early; turn risk into opportunity.


Subterranean Data Centres

  • Old mines/bunkers reimagined as “underground data fortresses.”
  • Strategic logic: protect critical data; manage cooling, power, and resilience.
  • Side bet: cooling technology becomes a shovel-in-the-gold-rush play.


Living with >2°C

  • Move beyond “prevention only” to adaptation + resilience at scale.
  • Practical mindset shift (as with COVID): learn to operate in new conditions.


UN & Multipolarity Weak Signals

  • Calls for African representation; scrutiny of Security Council veto power.
  • Diplomatic flashpoints as indicators of a shifting geopolitical order.
  • Boardroom takeaway: model tariff shocks, sanctions, supply-route rewiring.


BANI World & Grey Elephants

  • Today’s reality: Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear, Incomprehensible.
  • Build antifragile strategies before the stampede starts.


The Quiz

  • First military “drone” use: Austrian incendiary balloons over Venice (1849).


Interview — Øistein Jensen, CSO, Oddfjell

  • Decarbonisation now: efficiency first; multiple fuels/tech—no single silver bullet.
  • Regulation & level playing field: strong IMO rules to avoid “go-bankrupt green.”
  • Holistic value chain: avoid offloading emissions upstream; measure Scope 3.
  • Data & transparency: rising customer expectations across the full chain.
  • Partnerships: industry bodies, local forums on human rights, technology co-dev.
  • Supplier due diligence: shared platforms (e.g., Achilles) cut duplication and lift standards.
  • Embedding sustainability: company-wide incentives tied to climate trajectories.


Featured Guest

Øistein Jensen — Chief Sustainability Officer, Oddfjell (global leader in chemical shipping). Oversees sustainability, compliance and strategic safety. Former submarine commander in the Royal Norwegian Navy; prior experience at PwC.

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Keywords

grey elephants, BANI, multipolarity, UN reform, underground data centres, mines to data fortresses, climate adaptation, >2°C world, shipping decarbonisation, Oddfjell, Øis

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