Episode Details

If we could give Jennifer Lopez one tip: not every ex needs a friendship arc. Looking at you, Ben Affleck. Some things — like red carpets and rekindled flings — are better left in the early 2000s. On today's show, Holly braces herself for this scurrilous JLo gossip. Take cover, friends.

Plus, a plot twist in the Taylor Swift PR machine no one saw coming. Jessie’s been deep in internet sleuth mode and she’s ready to explain why the Swiftie outrage might actually be legit.

And finally: WTF is klarnamaxxing? If you live by 'buy now, pay later', you need to hear Amelia deep dive into this.

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What to read: 

• With two words, Jennifer Lopez just summed up what went wrong with Ben Affleck.
• Jennifer Lopez's first Instagram after splitting from Ben Affleck says everything.
• Nicole Kidman’s new breakup bangs are telling a much bigger story.
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: The details that make Nicole and Keith's split kind of about us.
• The moment the tide turned for Jennifer Lopez.
• The Life of a Showgirl leaves no doubt there will never be another Taylor Swift.
• All the Life Of A Showgirl Easter Eggs in one place.

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