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MacVoices #25246 Live! - Lossless Music, AI Data and Spotify, Vimeo's New Owner
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The MacVoices Live! panel reacts to Spotify's long-promised "lossless music" option, noting it trails Apple Music and Tidal, but may be "good enough" for phone/Bluetooth listeners. Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Marty Jencuis, Web Bixby, Jim Rea, Eric Bolden, Jeff Gamet, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, and Norbert Frassa compare discovery and playlist culture (Spotify vs Apple; shout-out to Pandora), look at app quirks and OS updates, and discuss reports of users selling Spotify's Wrapped data for AI. The discussion wraps up with Bending Spoons' plan to buy Vimeo and what its Evernote/FiLMiC history could mean for creators.
Show Notes: Today's MacVoices is supported by Insta360 and their new GO Ultra, the tiny 4K camera that goes everywhere with you. Visit store.Insta360.com and use the code "MacVoices" for a free set of Sticky Tabs.Chapters:
[0:02] Sponsor message; Spotify "lossless" finally arrives [0:35] How it compares to Apple Music and Tidal [3:11] "Good enough" for phone and Bluetooth listening [4:41] 2021 promises, pricing, and free-tier tweaks [5:50] Discovery and playlist culture; Pandora shout-out [8:16] Apple Music behavior: likes, skips, radio-style play [9:17] Zoom freeze and new OS updates chatter [13:17] Users selling Wrapped data for AI tools [15:03] Bending Spoons to acquire Vimeo [17:01] Track record: Evernote, FiLMiC, Meetup/others [19:27] Creator concerns: pricing, downloads, alternatives [26:02] Round-the-room outros and where to find the panel
Links:
Spotify Premium Users Get Lossless Streaming After Years of Delays https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/10/spotify-premium-users-lossless-streaming/
Spotify peeved after 10,000 users sold data to build AI tools https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/09/spotify-peeved-after-10000-users-sold-data-to-build-ai-tools/
Evernote and WeTransfer owner Bending Spoons is set to buy Vimeo for $1.38 billion https://www.engadget.com/entertainment/streaming/evernote-and-wetransfer-owner-bending-spoons-is-set-to-buy-vimeo-for-138-billion-155602681.html
Guests:
Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn, but prefers Bluesky.
Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.
Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can co