Episode Details

Michael sits down with Gary Ginsberg, author of "First Friends: The Powerful, Unsung (And Unelected) People Who Shaped Our Presidents." Original air date 19 August 2021. The book was published on 6 July 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.