Episode Details

AI panic is everywhere, but here’s a refreshing take: Jay Schwedelson sits down with Jeff Burningham to unpack why AI might actually make us more human. Jeff sees AI as a mirror that pushes us toward wisdom, deeper relationships, and more intentional living. If you’re tired of doom talk and want a practical, hopeful lens, this convo will hit different.

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Pick up The Last Book Written by a Human on Amazon, connect with Jeff on LinkedIn, visit jeffburningham.com, and follow @jeffburningham on Substack and TikTok.

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Best Moments:

(01:35) Jay calls out Jeff’s rare optimism on AI and sets the tone for a human-first conversation

(02:45) Jeff’s journey from founder and investor to a reflective pivot that began on the Ganges

(05:18) AI as a cosmic mirror and crucible that can catalyze real human transformation

(10:30) Counterintuitive advice to step away from AI, do inner work, then return with clarity

(13:15) The thesis lands hard as machines get smarter, humans must become more wise

(19:36) A hopeful future where AI frees time for art, creativity, and new industries

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Check out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson

Check out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelson

Check Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/

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Pre-order Jay Schwedelson’s new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out April 21, 2026). All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research—let’s kick cancer’s butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206