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Exploit Marketplaces
Episode 59
In this episode of Below the Surface, host Paul Asadoorian speaks with Evan Dornbush, CEO of Desired Effect, about the evolving landscape of exploit marketplaces and vulnerability research. They discuss the challenges researchers face in monetizing their findings, the ethical implications of selling exploits, and the importance of timely intelligence for defenders. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in vulnerability research, the dynamics between buyers and sellers in the marketplace, and the impact of end-of-life devices on cybersecurity. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights into the complexities of the exploit marketplace and the need for a more proactive approach to cybersecurity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Desired Effect and Evan Dornbush
02:35 The Evolution of Exploit Marketplaces
05:06 Monetizing Vulnerability Research
07:46 The Role of Disclosure in Exploit Sales
10:28 Understanding the Value of Exploits
13:14 Ethics and Motivations in Vulnerability Research
15:51 Validation of Vulnerabilities and Exploits
18:29 Buyer Vetting and Market Dynamics
21:31 Proactive Defense Strategies
24:32 Market Insights and Future Trends
27:43 The Marketplace for Exploits
31:08 The Role of Researchers and Vendors
34:51 The Asymmetry in Cybersecurity
38:03 Economic Incentives in Cybersecurity
40:25 The Complexity of Risk Management
43:57 The Future of Exploit Disclosure
47:23 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity
53:31 Closing Thoughts on Exploit Ethics
Published on 4 weeks ago