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What does it mean to rest in a world that’s constantly demanding more from us—and why is rest such an essential part of resistance?

In this episode, Becky and Taina sit down with Jordan Maney (aka The Radical Joy Coach) to talk about rest as resistance, how to distinguish between anger and rage, and why “rest so you can rage” is a mantra worth remembering.

Together they unpack:

• The difference between anger (short-term) and rage (sustainable)
• Why rest, joy, and care are essential for sustaining activism and justice work
• What Audre Lorde meant when she said “anger is loaded with information and energy”
• How shame and defensiveness show up when we’re called in or called out
• The tension between white women co-opting “rest as resistance” vs. acknowledging privilege
• Rest equity and who most urgently needs access to true restoration
• Why rest isn’t the absence of doing, but the presence of restoration—creative rest, social rest, emotional rest, and more

Jordan reminds us that rest isn’t an excuse to check out. It’s a strategy for sustaining ourselves in the long fight against oppressive systems. Without it, burnout wins.

If you’ve ever felt guilty about slowing down, or wondered how to balance caring for yourself while also showing up for justice, this episode will leave you with a radical new lens on why rest isn’t optional—it’s part of the work.

Jordan Maney is The Radical Joy Coach and the host of Rest Lab podcast. She helps “bleeding hearts”—people who deeply give a damn—center rest, joy, and care in their lives as an act of resistance.

Resources & Links

• RestLab Report and Podcast, Jordan’s Substack
• “Joy Is a Strategy: The White Leftist Struggle with Spirit”
• “Uses of Anger” by Audre Lorde
• “Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto” by Tricia Hersey

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