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How AI is reshaping the product role | Oji and Ezinne Udezue

Ezinne and Oji Udezue have over 50 years of combined product leadership experience at Microsoft, Twitter, Atlassian, WP Engine, Typeform, and Calendly. They’ve witnessed every major shift in product management, and, despite their seniority, they’re taking beginner AI courses and learning from engineers half their age, and Oji is coding more now than in the past decade—from Waterfall to Agile to AI. They are also the authors of Building Rocketships, a guide to building great products. In this conversation, the couple shares hard-won lessons they’ve learned from companies successfully adapting to AI, including their “shipyard” framework and their “sharp problem” methodology.

What you’ll learn:

1. The “shipyard” framework: why the best AI teams embrace controlled chaos

2. Why Oji writes more code now than in the past 10 years—despite being a PM for more than 25 years

3. The three skills that matter most for PMs in 2025: curiosity, humility, and agency

4. How to identify “sharp problems”

5. AI at the core vs. AI at the edge: why companies that are building entirely new AI-centric codebases will beat those just “sprinkling AI” on existing products

6. The counterintuitive truth: engineers are moving so fast with AI that PMs are now the bottleneck

7. Their biggest product lesson from 50 combined years

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Where to find Oji and Ezinne:

• ProductMind on Substack: https://substack.com/@ojiudezue

• ProductMind on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/productmindco

• ProductMind on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProductMindX/videos