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Max Tegmark: Physics Absorbed Artificial Intelligence & (Maybe) Consciousness

Max Tegmark: Physics Absorbed Artificial Intelligence & (Maybe) Consciousness



MIT physicist Max Tegmark argues that artificial intelligence belongs inside physics and that consciousness will be the next frontier. He distinguishes intelligence from subjective experience, outlines falsifiable experiments with brain‑reading technology, and shows how concepts like Hopfield energy landscapes and mechanistic interpretability connect mind, math, and machines.

- 00:00 - Why AI is the New Frontier of Physics
- 09:38 - Is Consciousness Just a Byproduct of Intelligence?
- 16:43 - A Falsifiable Theory of Consciousness? (The MEG Helmet Experiment)
- 27:34 - Beyond Neural Correlates: A New Paradigm for Scientific Inquiry
- 38:40 - Humanity: The Masters of Underestimation (Fermi's AI Analogy)
- 51:27 - What Are an AI's True Goals? (The Serial Killer Problem)
- 1:03:42 - Fermat's Principle, Entropy, and the Physics of Goals
- 1:15:52 - Eureka Moment: When an AI Discovered Geometry on Its Own
- 1:30:01 - Refuting the "AI Doomers": We Have More Agency Than We Think

SPONSORS:

- The Economist: https://www.economist.com/toe

RESOURCES:

- Substack (Personal Writings): https://curtjaimungal.substack.com
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- Max's Papers: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=eBXEZxgAAAAJ&hl=en
- Language Models Use Trigonometry to Do Addition [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.00873
- Generalization from Starvation [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.08255
- Geoffrey Hinton [TOE]: https://youtu.be/b_DUft-BdIE
- Michael Levin [TOE]: https://youtu.be/c8iFtaltX-s
- Iceberg of Consciousness [TOE]: https://youtu.be/65yjqIDghEk
- Improved Measures of Integrated Information [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1601.02626
- David Kaiser [TOE]: https://youtu.be/_yebLXsIdwo
- Iain McGilchrist [TOE]: https://youtu.be/Q9sBKCd2HD0
- Elan Barenholtz & William Hahn [TOE]: https://youtu.be/A36OumnSrWY
- Daniel Schmachtenberger [TOE]: https://youtu.be/g7WtcTATa2U
- Ted Jacobson [TOE]: https://youtu.be/3mhctWlXyV8
- The "All Possible Paths" Myth [TOE]: https://youtu.be/XcY3ZtgYis0

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