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Apologizing Makes Women & Lefties Hate You: Why?
In this episode, Simone and Malcolm explore the social and political consequences of public apologies. Discussing a study by Richard Hanania on how different demographics react to apologies, the Collinses elaborate on why apologizing can often make things worse, especially in public contexts where it is demanded. They share various examples including public figures like John Carmack and discuss concepts like in-group and out-group dynamics. Furthermore, Malcolm and Simone delve into psychological studies on apologizing, their effects on self-respect, trustworthiness, and the phenomenon of the 'doormat effect.'
The episode also touches on character traits of public figures like Trump and Jordan Peterson, and how maintaining a consistent public persona can influence one's likability and support. Finally, the Collinses share personal anecdotes and behind-the-scenes discussions, all contributing to a broader understanding of the intricate relationship between public image, apologies, and societal reactions.
Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] So who really, really, really punishes.
Approval people who make apologies about things. It is liberals where the result was 13.8 and even more than liberals, females, where the result was 16.30
Would you like to know more?
Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today came to me from a REU post that I was reading on X. Nice. And honestly, I didn't get this from XI, I got it from Facebook.
Malcolm Collins (2): Okay. But
Malcolm Collins: somebody screenshotted an ex post by from you, friend of the show who said, you know, who wrote a paper on this? So specifically he's talking to a guy who there was some conference called Based Con, and this guy John Carmack, backed out of Basscon because it had become too.
Controversial or rightwing, you know, from his perspective. So what he says is, it is unfortunate that Rob has made Basscon so intentionally provocative. Well, it's
Simone Collins: not called normy [00:01:00] Con. Come on.
Malcolm Collins: I feel a little uncomfortable after the events of last year. , You know, just whining basically that people too controversial, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then apologizing for having any involvement with. And Mia's like, what are you doing? Do not apologize. And then he goes, do you know who actually wrote a paper on this at Richard Hania? Been on the show before, by the way. Fans don't like it very much after he turned on Trump, but he's done interesting research anyway.
He found that when people presented with apologizing instead of standing firm, women in liberals were more likely to want to punish them. So I'm gonna get into the abstract of the study, and then we're going to look at how different groups reacted to this. And then after that, we're gonna go into all of the other research on apologizing that will generally show that we, when you should apologize, and that generally, at least in a public context, it is a bad idea to apologize.
Mm-hmm. If people are using, attempting to get you to apologize as a weapon against you, [00:02:00] IE you know, apologize or else. Bad thing will happen to you. It always gets worse when you apologize. A apologize when you're actually made a mistake. Not when people are pushing you. Unless you are 100% okay with flipping a hundred percent, like basically which team you're paying.
Simone Collins: Ray, what do you mean by apologize? When you're mid mistake like.
Malcolm Collins: So a great example of this is often used in business case studies. I think it was Tylenol or one of the medical companies Oh. Who released a product that was actually harmful to people. And then they did this big apology and removed at a huge cost very quickly, all of their products from t
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