Episode Details

European leaders raced to Washington to show their support for President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as he met with President Trump on Monday.It was their first face-to-face meeting at the White House since their disastrous blowup in the Oval Office in February.Michael Schwirtz, who covers global intelligence, explains how and why Mr. Zelensky’s approach has changed.Guest: Michael Schwirtz, the global intelligence correspondent for The New York Times.Background reading: 

• Can Mr. Zelensky trust Mr. Trump? Ukraine’s fate may depend on the answer.
• Mr. Zelensky and other European leaders have learned a thing or two about negotiating with Mr. Trump.

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