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Why ChatGPT will be the next big growth channel (and how to capitalize on it) | Brian Balfour (Reforge)

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Brian Balfour is the founder of Reforge, the former VP of Growth at HubSpot, and a student (and teacher) of product growth. Brian has studied every major platform shift—from Facebook to Apple to Google—and he’s spotted a pattern that’s about to repeat with ChatGPT.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:

1. The 4-step cycle every platform follows (and why ChatGPT just entered step 2)

2. Why ChatGPT’s platform launch could be bigger than Facebook’s early platform

3. The exact signals that ChatGPT will launch a third-party platform within six months

4. Why you have six months (not years) to make your platform bet

5. Why companies that don’t integrate with ChatGPT will lose to competitors that do

6. How Zynga grew to $1B by betting on Facebook’s platform early (before it was obvious)

7. Why so few companies are actually doing what they need to be doing right now

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Transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/why-chatgpt-will-be-the-next-big-growth-channel-brian-balfour

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My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/170294620/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation

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Where to find Brian Balfour:

• X: https://twitter.com/bbalfour

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bbalfour/

• Website: https://brianbalfour.com/

• Substack: https://blog.brianbalfour.com/

• Podcast: https://www.reforge.com/podcast/unsolicited-feedback

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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Welcome back, Brian!

(04:13) The changing landscape of product growth

(05:09) The importance of distribution

(08:14) The role of new distribution platforms

(09:45) The four-step cycle of distribution platforms

(17:38) Examples of platform cycles

(30:01) The rise of ChatGPT

(44:47) The future of AI agents

(46:01) Preferred partners and platform credibility

(47:18) Monetization mechanisms and free tiers

(48:14) Betting strategies for startups

(01:04:34) Adopting AI tools: challenges and strategies

(01:08:41) The importance of hard con

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