Season 1 Episode 95
Meet Matthew. He’s in his office, blinds half closed, watching one of his department heads wipe away tears. “I’m trying,” she whispers. “But I just can’t keep doing this.” As executive director of a nonprofit that supports families in need, Matthew knows the mission matters. But the inbox overload, blurred work-life boundaries, and unrelenting pace are breaking down not only his team, but him too. He’s tried wellness webinars and mental health days, yet burnout feels baked into the culture. Guilt keeps him from slowing down, even as exhaustion mounts. How can he help his team breathe when he hasn’t figured out how to come up for air himself? In this episode, Jay is joined by Cait Donovan, burnout recovery expert, keynote speaker, and host of Fried: The Burnout Podcast. Cait’s Burn Bold Framework has been used by companies like PepsiCo, Clorox, and Forbes to dismantle burnout from the inside out. Together, they unpack how resentment, often ignored or hidden, can quietly drain your energy, erode boundaries, and lead to self-neglect. Cait reveals six “burnout vulnerability buckets,” shares simple, science-backed ways to rebuild your connection to your body, and explains why prevention strategies often fail if you’ve never recovered from burnout before. If you’ve been running on fumes or leading a team that’s burning out, this episode offers a roadmap to reclaim energy, focus, and balance. Notable Quotes “Resentment is a sign your boundaries are too weak and your needs are going unmet.” — Cait Donovan “You can’t prevent burnout if you’ve never learned to recover from it.” — Cait Donovan “Meeting yourself where you are is the first step to lasting change.” — Jay Abbasi About Our Guest Cait Donovan is an internationally recognized keynote speaker, burnout recovery coach, and host of Fried: The Burnout Podcast. With a background in Chinese medicine and expertise in translating neuroscience into practical strategies, Cait has helped individuals and organizations around the world build resilience and dismantle burnout culture. Her Burn Bold Framework empowers leaders to set healthy boundaries, prevent self-neglect, and create environments where people can thrive. Resources and Links Cait Donovan FRIED. The Burnout Podcast – https://open.spotify.com/show/2VhzgpY24d6xDhxPLGn9Ex?si=ba8048daaa1042f9&nd=1&dlsi=d778de83135f475e Website – https://www.caitdonovan.com/ LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitdonovanspeaks/ YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@caitdonovanspeaks Instagram – https://www.youtube.com/@caitdonovanspeaks Apple podcast – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fried-the-burnout-podcast/ Jay Abbasi Website – https://jayabbasi.me/ LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayabbasi/ Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jayabbasi_/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/thejayabbasi/ YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@jayabbasipodcast Join Us Next Time On Friday, Jay will guide you through a practical, step-by-step interoception exercise designed to help you reconnect with your body’s signals and meet your needs in real time. These are the same techniques he’s shared with leaders at Fortune 500 companies to help them manage stress, improve focus, and avoid burnout. If you’ve been stuck in your head, ignoring what your body is telling you, this episode will give you tools to build awareness, make better decisions, and protect your energy. Until then, stay aware, stay balanced, and stay connected to yourself.
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