Episode Details

What if your greatest pain could become your greatest teacher?

In this conversation, I sit down with Jayna Swan—founder of HER (Healthy Emotional Regulation) Embodiment Retreats—to explore how emotional regulation saved her life and became the foundation of her mission. From enduring years of physical pain and trauma to discovering the connection between emotions and health, Jayna reveals how facing pain head-on unlocks resilience, strength, and clarity in both life and business.

🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode:

• Why ignoring emotional pain often turns into physical illness
  

• The biggest misconceptions about emotional regulation in business
  

• How to sit with emotions (instead of suppressing them) to find clarity
  

• The role of co-regulation and why it matters for parents, leaders, and teams
  

• Jayna’s “tunnel of pain” metaphor and how to keep walking until you reach the light
  

⏱️ Timestamps:

00:00 – Jayna’s journey: from surgeries to self-discovery

07:00 – How physical and emotional pain are deeply connected

11:30 – The tunnel of pain: learning to walk through instead of getting stuck

15:00 – Misconceptions about emotions in business decisions

20:00 – Co-regulation: how to calm others by grounding yourself

23:00 – Why movement is the first step in Jayna’s “Five M’s” for emotional health

📌 Connect with Jayna:

Instagram: @jayna.swan

Website: jaynaswan.com/retreats

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