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Kevin Barrett: Our first category of stories here is the “consternation” stories. The Jews are feeling “tremendous consternation” about the genocide of Gaza. At least that’s what this headline tells us. There are hundreds of rabbis who are saying that “the Jewish people face a grave moral crisis.” So, Mike, are Jews waking up?

E. Michael Jones: Yes. This is proof that God's creation trumps the software that is created to distort it. The moral law is written on the heart of man. Jews are human beings, and so therefore they have this, they know this moral law. You cannot deny the moral law. It's there. And yet the people that they identify with are engaging in what is clearly immoral behavior. So something's got to give. It's going to be one way or the other. And so you're seeing both heading in two divergent directions. You’ve got on one hand, the Jews who are going to listen to the moral law, saying, “wait a minute, we can't take part in this anymore.” On the other side, you have the rabbis and other people who are doubling down and saying, “no, no, no, this is proof that we are superior, that they are Amalek, that we are above the law.” And what you're seeing is de facto a civil war, a civil war in the Jewish consciousness.

Well, I can see why rabbis who are serious men, as the Coen Brothers film would have it, would feel consternation when they see these kinds of images, right? Israeli soldiers posing with the toys of the kids that they've murdered or at minimum maybe killed their parents, expelled from their houses or what have you. And Elan Mizrahi, an Israeli himself, calls it the sickest society ever recorded.

So that's certainly worthy of consternation. And how about these thousands of these kinds of videos coming out of Israel:

Okay, so these sadistic kinds of behaviors are just overflowing. They're almost going to jam up the internet, there are so many of them.

Right. Their ideology is on a collision course with moral reality. There's no way that you can reconcile these things anymore. You have to make a choice. And so as an example of this, I just came back, met an Israeli lady who liked my writing. She called me a national treasure. Not sure for which nation, but anyway.

I don't think she thinks you work for her nation, I hope.

Well, the point is that she checked out. She checked out of Jewish identity. I went and witnessed her baptism just this past month.

MashaAllah. Takbir! Allahu Akbar!

No, I'm saying…So what she said, she checked out of Jewish identity. And one of her children checked out with her. And the most fundamental way you can do this is by baptism, which means that she's no longer a Jew, according to Jewish law.

So this is something's got to give. Something's got to give. You cannot have an ideology that is so far out of contact with moral reality and not expect it to divide the people. It's what's going to happen. It's happening right now. The Jews themselves are dividing.

And more and more Jews are checking out of Israeli identity, Jewish identity, and certainly Zionist identity at the bare