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E. Michael Jones of Culture Wars discusses his new article “Requiem for a Figurehead” as well as the midterms, abortion and “sexual liberation,” our “Towards Tomorrow” seminar with Dr. Ahmadinejad, and the Kanye and Kyrie controversy. Below is the transcript of the show’s final minutes.

Kevin Barrett: I wanted to ask you about the Kanye and Kyrie controversy. They apparently spoke that J word that you are notoriously associated with also speaking, and they lost billions of dollars. I bet you never lost billions of dollars.

E. Michael Jones: No, I didn't. And I've said it a lot more times than Kanye has, actually. (laughter) I do have a theory about what happened here. Now, if you focus on Kyrie — we pronounce it Keerie-ay. We don't say "Kyrie" eleison in mass. But anyway, if you focus on Kyrie, what he did seems completely insignificant. I mean, he tweeted a recommendation for a movie, okay?

Kevin Barrett: He didn't even recommend it. He just had a link in the tweet that just basically means, hey, this is interesting. It doesn't even say whether he likes it or dislikes it.

E. Michael Jones: Right. So why is it suddenly World War Three at the ADL? What's going on here? First of all: Jonathan (Greenblatt), hold on. Take a deep breath. Take a step back. Count to ten. You just wrecked the best revolutionary operation in America. It was called the black-Jewish Alliance. It's been in existence for 100 years. The NAACP was created by Jews to keep blacks on the plantation. And you were successful. The most successful resurrection of the black-Jewish alliance was Black Lives Matter. Everybody thought it had died in 1967. Now it's back with a vengeance. And Jonathan, you just wrecked it! Why did you do that? Why did the ADL shoot itself in the foot? This guy named Liel Liebovitz just wrote an article saying the ADL has to go. It's a Jew saying this. So (Jonathan Greenblatt) why did you do this? I think the answer is: because they needed something immediately to cover up the really damaging revelations that came out in the Kanye West scandal.

Kevin Barrett: And what were those?

E. Michael Jones: The fact that he had a personal trainer by the name of Harley Pasternak... Okay, so wait a minute. He's your “personal trainer” and then he tweets — Kanye published the tweet — if you don't do what I say, I'm going to have you institutionalized. You will you be shot up with drugs and you will never see your children again, or something like that.

Kevin Barrett: Yeah, that was a pretty nasty threat. I mean, I've heard of "you'll never work in this town again." I'll bet Mel Gibson heard that a few times. But "we're going to take your kids away and institutionalize you..."

E. Michael Jones: Whoa, whoa. This is really serious. And it's not the first time this has happened. Google Marilyn Monroe's Jewish psychiatrist back in the fifties. Back then you weren't called a personal trainer. You were called a psychiatrist when you had to take control of people's lives. But the situation was similar because that guy Greenson shot Marilyn Monroe full of drugs and probably killed her. And now here's this guy, Pasternak, who's got connections with Canadian psychological warfare operations. And he tells this guy on camera that, "yeah, I hav