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Last minute schedule change! Noted author Charles Upton, John Andrew Morrow’s Covenants of the Prophet colleague, will stand in for Dr. Morrow, who will instead appear on next week’s show. Below are selections from our conversation.

Charles Upton: Recently, though, people have been asking me to talk about the UFO phenomenon because I have a book out about that called The Alien Disclosure Deception. I've got this huge long list of ufologists or people interested in the phenomenon. So I took that opportunity to say what I think is going on. It appears that the elements of the intelligence complex have been attempting to found something like a UFO religion. They may not call it that, but it has many of the characteristics of a religion. And one of the main dogmas of this religion is that we were created by the UFO aliens.

It's got everything that one would need psychologically for a religion. It isn't true, but psychologically it fulfills the function of religion, but what's great about it is you don't have to give up your materialism. You can say, well, yes, we have been created, their higher beings have created us, but of course they did it scientifically, they did it through genetic engineering. You know, God is a superstition, but this is real. It's a viral meme, if you will. Many, many people are saying that.

Number two, check into the career, the life and career of Jack Parsons, and then check into the life and career of Michael Aquino. Michael Aquino was a colonel, a high-ranking Army officer at the Presidio in San Francisco. He was accused of running some sort of a satanic pedophile situation with a daycare center there. And he was involved in, as a founder or a major member, of large satanic organizations, the Temple of Set and the Church of Satan.

He was kicked out of the Church of Satan for being too evil.

So, did the Temple of Set come later?

Yeah. It sounds like a joke, but he really was kicked out of the Church of Satan for being too evil, and then he founded his own thing, the Temple of Set.

Yeah, okay, well, right, to his own tastes. So, one of my friends, Eric Doherty, who is a pretty good researcher, said that the military, I suppose the army, sent him (Aquino) to investigate the Roswell crash. So he was like a liaison from the U.S. Army to whoever was investigating or operating around the so-called crash of the alien spacecraft in Roswell…

And then that when people start looking into that (Satanic child abuse) then suddenly we get all this pizzagate stuff, and then a pushback against it.

Do you remember when was the satanic panic?

Yeah, it was in the 80s.

Basically what happened then is more and more reports of satanic atrocities were coming before police departments. And so they started to investigate things. And so the way the satanists dealt with that was simply to flood the world with reports.

Jenny and I recently saw that movie, The Sound of Freedom. Did you ever see that?

No, I haven't seen that yet. I've heard all about it, of course.

Just as an adventure film, it's a pretty good film. But, of course, against all of the pushback and the stonewalling, it succeeded in coming out and was extremely successful in its first week, against all odds. Jim Caviezel, who played Christ in Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ.

(Tim Ballard) was with Homeland Security for quite a while, going after human traffickers, doing sting operations where he could get some of the many, probably millions of children who are being trafficked in this world now, out of the clutches of some of the people who captured them.

It was amazing to see who opposed that film. A lot of the major media couldn't just ignore it, and so th