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This interview was conducted Thursday, just hours before Israel launched its criminal attack on Iran. Stay tuned for updates. -KB

Mr. Kevin Barrett…we might be going into war. Do you think the U.S. citizens right now, the U.S. population, is ready to sacrifice many of their sons and daughters once again to go to war and die for the Israeli regime?

No, and I think this is a huge miscalculation on the part of the Zionist element in the American administration, and indeed the Congress. They seem to imagine that somehow they can gain enough popular support for a war that they can credibly threaten Iran. And I think that's not the case. Neither of the two sides of the American red-versus-blue schism is the slightest bit interested in another big war for Israel. Obviously, the blue side, that is the Democrats who are opposed to Trump, are not going to be following the baboon in the White House like he's some kind of great leader. We see a huge movement now rising up against “King Trump,” the “we don't want a king” movement. And we see California getting close to wanting to secede from the union rather than allow Trump to send federal troops in to occupy California and have his way with the immigrants.

So the U.S. is on the brink of falling apart. There might be some in the Zionist circles of the Trump administration who imagine that somehow Trump could play the role of a macho, fearless leader and try to unite the country in a big war. But I think they're probably even a minority within the administration. The majority of Trump support comes from people who see through these wars for Israel, who are sick of them, who don't want more losing wars, like the catastrophes in Iraq and Afghanistan under the neocons.

So neither side is interested in any such war, and there's no way that any interest or commitment to such a war could ever be sustained. It'll never even really get off the ground. But even if they were able to whip up some kind of hysteria, if some Americans, a lot of Americans, suddenly died on Mideast military bases, I think that that rally around the flag effect would last about five seconds.

So the U.S. is not prepared for any major war. The Israelis, unfortunately, are. And they're the ones who are trying to drag the U.S. into yet another disastrous war for Israel, which would certainly be lost and would probably be the final nail in the coffin of the U.S. empire.

Israelis have already cost the Americans $8 trillion in their 9-11 wars after Israel blew up the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 and falsely blamed Muslims to drag the United States into a series of wars whose only beneficiary was the state of Israel. And a great many Americans have now seen through this, including a lot of Trump supporters. So the idea that Israel is going to get away with finishing off the American empire by dragging it into another huge war is really a non-starter.

So I don't think it's actually the Americans who hold the cards or the Israelis who hold the cards here. It's really Iran that holds the cards. And behind Iran, Russia and China, who are really the number one or number two and number one militaries in the world, respectively.

So if it turns to all-out war, this will be the last war that fully brings down the American empire. But I don't think it will. I don't think the Americans are that stupid.

Okay, let's hope you're right. Let's just hold on. I'm going to give our viewers a roundup of what we're discussing. If you're just joining us, you're watching Press TV's rolling coverage of the recent IAEA anti-Iran resolution th