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The Human Side of Technology with Abadesi Osunsade — From Diversity to AI and Back Again | Guest: Abadesi Osunsade | Redefining Society And Technology Podcast With Marco Ciappelli
Episode 2442
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Title: The Human Side of Technology with Abadesi Osunsade — From Diversity to AI and Back Again
Guest: Abadesi Osunsade
Founder @ Hustle Crew - We train ambitious & inclusive teams in tech & beyond
WebSite: https://www.abadesi.com
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abadesi/
Host: Marco Ciappelli
Co-Founder & CMO @ITSPmagazine | Master Degree in Political Science - Sociology of Communication l Branding & Marketing Consultant | Journalist | Writer | Podcasts: Technology, Cybersecurity, Society, and Storytelling.
WebSite: https://marcociappelli.com
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marco-ciappelli/
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⸻ Podcast Summary ⸻
What happens when someone with a multicultural worldview, startup grit, and a relentless focus on inclusion sits down to talk about tech, humanity, and the future? You get a conversation like this one with Abadesi Osunsade. We touched on everything from equitable design and storytelling to generative AI and ethics. This episode isn’t about answers — it’s about questions that matter. And it reminded me why I started this show in the first place.
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Some conversations remind you why you hit “record” in the first place.
This one with Abadesi Osunsade — founder of Hustle Crew, podcast host of Techish, and longtime tech leader — was exactly that kind of moment. We were supposed to connect in person at Infosecurity Europe in London, but the chaos of the event kept us from it. I’m glad it worked out this way instead, because what came out of our remote chat was raw, layered, and deeply human.
Abadesi and I explored a lot in just over 30 minutes: her journey through big tech and startups, the origins of Hustle Crew, and how inclusion and equity aren’t just HR buzzwords — they’re the foundation of better design. Better products. Better culture.
We talked about the usual “why diversity matters” angle — but went beyond it. She shared viral real-world examples of flawed design (like facial recognition or hand dryers that don’t register dark skin) and challenged the myth that inclusive design is more expensive. Spoiler: it’s more expensive not to do it right the first time.
Then we jumped into AI — not just how it’s being built, but who is building it. And what it means when those creators don’t reflect the world they’re supposedly designing for. We talked about generative AI, ethics, simulation, capitalism, utopia, dystopia — you know, the usual light stuff.
What stood out most, though, was her reminder that this work — inclusion, education, change — isn’t about shame or guilt. It’s about possibility. Not everyone sees the world the same way, so you meet them where they are, with stories, with data, with empathy. And maybe, just maybe, you shift their perspective.
This podcast was never meant to be just a
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