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Kamala Won In The Real Timeline! (Why Many Believe This)
In this episode, Simone and Malcolm explore the intriguing phenomenon of the 4:00 AM Club—a group of Democrats convinced that Donald Trump's election caused a split from the 'real' timeline, where Kamala Harris is President. Diving into the social media reach and belief systems of this community, they draw comparisons to the QAnon movement and investigate the role of mysticism, conspiracy thinking, and societal reactions to political realities. From discussions on progressive mysticism to personal anecdotes and reflections, this episode is an in-depth look at how some people are coping with political disillusionment by creating alternative spiritual narratives.
Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are gonna be talking about the 4:00 AM Club, which is a group of Democrats that believe that when the election of Trump happened, our timeline split from the real timeline. We are in the, the, the fake or like corrupted timeline. And in this real timeline, Kamala won.
They are trying to merge these two timelines. And you have the impression when I brought this up with you, that this was a small movement. When you look at their tiktoks, they get millions of views. They, they, they, they regularly get millions of views. Well, are they hate views though? No, I hate viewership is very rare in real life.
Like people assume, like our channel gets hate viewership, and yet we get like an average of like 95% up votes. Like actual hate viewership is just not that big, unless you're talking about like a literal, like lull cow, like Chris Chan or something like that. Okay. And even then a lot of people end up liking him after a while.
So I don't know, Simone, I don't, I don't think it's, it's hate views. Okay. Okay. The, and well, it's a big community and as we go into this, the reason why we're gonna explore this is one, it's a bit like you saying, oh, qan on must be a small thing because it sounds weird. Or discordant with social norms. I mean, yet QAN on was not a small thing.
That's a good point.
Simone Collins: Yeah, you're right. Yeah. It used
Malcolm Collins: to be almost people have said it's like progressive QAN on Whoa. But. It, it, it's, it's very interesting to explore because it handles the conspiracy vibe of, oh, Trump didn't really win in a way that is so soaked in progressive mysticism. That it is very like, unique and I think it will be fun to talk about how this.
It's structured differently than Q Anon and why. Yeah. And then it's really interesting to understand like what actually goes on in the minds of those most deeply affected with the urban monoculture. Those who are you know, this deeply cultural imperialistic. They want everyone to think like them, everyone to act like them.
What, what goes on? In, in terms of how their minds broke around this second Trump election. And you mentioned something to me yesterday that I thought was really telling about all this, where you said Trump derangement syndrome, this time seems so much worse than it did the first time. Like, people's breaks from reality are more severe than you have seen Historic.
And I think the reason for this is because after Trump was elected for the first time, they were living in a world of, see now everyone who is saying sees how bad this is, this is never going to happen again. And when it happened again, was a majority vote. It sort of said to them. Wait, what? That world I've been living in for the past four or five years is a construction.
Like it's not real. Like, and, and people didn't think he had done a bad job. Like there's a huge percent of America that likes and, and worse. It's a larger percent now of minorities. It's over 50% of Hispanic males. It was huge gains made within the Muslim community. I think it might have been a majority of Muslims in sub communities, but I can't remember w
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