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Are you struggling to form new habits that actually stick?

If you’ve ever found yourself failing to break old habits, it’s likely because you’re using the wrong habit formation strategies. 

Thankfully, today’s guest is going to unlock the key to transformational behavior change so you and your team can successfully adopt new ways of working.

Today’s guest is Jason Hreha. Jason is a behavioral scientist and entrepreneur who, after studying at Stanford and working in BJ Fogg's Behavior Design Lab, developed the Behavioral Strategy framework for business challenges. 

As CEO of Persona, he combines behavioral science assessments with rigorous vetting to connect companies with exceptional talent. Previously, as Global Head at Walmart, he established the first Fortune 100 behavioral science team. Jason is also the author of Real Change, a book redefining habit formation and personal growth. 

In this episode, Jason shares a breakthrough approach to behavior change that will reshape the way you think about habits.

We explore the distinction between habits and transformative practices and why most people fail by choosing habits that are too complex or misaligned with their personality.

Jason also explains the importance of behavior matching and how it can help both individuals and teams adopt the right practices for lasting impact. 

Plus, in the extended episode available to Podcast+ members, Jason shares practical, human-centered strategies to break bad habits for yourself and your team.

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Conversation Topics

• (00:00) Introduction
• (01:55) Habits vs. transformative practices
• (05:46) The problem with habit-forming strategies
• (08:15) Why behavior matching is more effective
• (10:47) Respecting individual strengths and weaknesses
• (17:31) How managers can introduce new team practices effectively
• (21:01) Exploring new behaviors as a way of growth
• (24:44) A great manager Jason has worked for
• (27:18) Keep up with Jason
• (28:09) [Extended Episode Only] How to break a bad habit for yourself or a team member 
• (35:49) [Extended Episode Only] Embracing personality traits for effective behavior change

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