Episode Details

What happens when community theater, political leadership, and grassroots organizing collide?

In today’s polarized climate, building authentic, inclusive community can feel impossible—especially across political, social, and cultural divides. But Kathie deNobriga has been doing exactly that for decades—as an artist, activist, and even as the mayor of a small Georgia town. Her story shows how creativity, collaboration, and a little humor can foster connection where we need it most.

• Hear how Kathie’s winding journey from political theater to small-town leadership taught her the power of listening, laughter, and shared purpose.
• Learn how grassroots festivals, community theater, and collaborative storytelling can become secret weapons for tolerance and social change.
• Discover why humility, mistakes, and the occasional unruly neighbor (or cow) are essential ingredients for building real, resilient communities.

Tune in to hear how one artist-mayor is using creativity and conversation to rewrite the story of community—one gathering, one laugh, one story at a time.

Notable Mentions

👤 People

1. Kathie deNobriga

Theater artist, cultural organizer, former mayor of Pine Lake, GA, and long-time member of Alternate ROOTS.

1. Bill Cleveland

Host of the Art is Change podcast and Director of the Center for the Study of Art and Community.

1. Jo Carson

Theater collaborator and part of the early political theater collective referenced by deNobriga.

1. Bob Leonard

Longtime community-based theater artist and academic, mentioned as a long-term collaborator with Kathie.

1. Ashley Haze

A younger member of the Alternate ROOTS staff, representative of the intergenerational dialogue in the organization.

1. Hannah Arendt

Political theorist cited in the conversation for her insights on loneliness and totalitarianism.

📅 Events

1. Pine Lake October Arts Festival

Annual local arts festival organized in Pine Lake, GA, coordinated by Kathie as a civic-arts initiative.

1. Spoleto Festival USA

Premier arts festival in Charleston, South Carolina that includes music, theater, and visual arts. Kathie attended and highlighted it for featuring Manual Cinema.

🏛️ Organizations

1. Alternate ROOTS

A southern-based collective of artists and cultural organizers working at the intersection of art and activism. deNobriga is both a contributor and co-editor of their upcoming book.

1. Manual Cinema

Chicago-based performance collective blending shadow puppetr