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🎙️ 7. Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail (Episcopal) – God Didn’t Make Us to Hate Us

Alexis is joined by Rev. Lizzie — an Episcopal priest, digital minister, & founding vicar of Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX. Her new devotional, God Didn’t Make Us to Hate Us, is a healing and pastoral 40-day companion for those reclaiming their faith after spiritual harm.

They explore how deconstruction can lead to delight, why queer joy is sacred, & how the church has always included women as leaders—despite what some traditions might claim. Rev. Lizzie shares stories of raising her kids with spiritual wonder, showing up online as a playful priest, & building an affirming church rooted in liberation and joy.

This episode is for anyone who’s ever wondered if they had to earn God’s love—or feared they lost it. It’s for those who’ve walked away, still long for connection, or are raising a new generation of curious hearts.

💡 Key Takeaways
 • Joy is a spiritual discipline—not a distraction
 • God’s love isn’t earned—it’s already yours
 • Women have always led in the church
 • You can be queer, faithful, and deeply beloved by God
 • The Fruit of the Spirit matters more than purity codes
 • Parenting through faith shifts invites curiosity, not fear

⛪ About Our Guest
 Father Lizzie McManus-Dail (@rev.lizzie) is an Episcopal priest and founding vicar of Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX — https://jubileeaustin.org.
She holds degrees from Mount Holyoke College and Duke Divinity School, and completed her Anglican formation at Seminary of the Southwest. Rev. Lizzie is a mother, wife, preacher, and digital priest whose ministry uplifts joy, liberation, & the wildly inclusive love of God.

📚 Resources Mentioned
• God Didn’t Make Us to Hate Us by Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail
• Dare to Lead by Brené Brown — @brenebrown
• Womanist Midrash by Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney — https://www.wilgafney.com/
• Red Lip Theology by Candice Benbow — @candicebenbow
• The Book of Belonging by Mariko Clark — @thebookofbelonging, @marikoclark
• Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza — @drrobertoche
• Homebrewed Christianity podcast @theologynerd with Tripp Fuller @trippfuller
• ChurchClarity.org — https://www.churchclarity.org (find O&A, women in leadership churches)
• Archbishop Desmond Tutu — https://www.tutu.org.za
• And Also With You podcast @andalsowithyoupodcast w/Rev. Lizzie & Rev. Laura Di Panfilo @laura.peaches
• Father Emmanuel Katongole — https://theology.nd.edu/people/emmanuel-katongole/

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