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Martha Creek is a certified facilitator for Byron Katie’s The Work, and in this conversation she shares how questioning stressful thoughts can transform perception, soften reactivity, and reveal a deeper kind of honesty. We talk about her early sense of God’s presence, the strong inner conviction that shaped her life, and the practical power of asking whether a thought is actually true. Martha speaks with humor and clarity about fearlessness, addiction, divorce, trauma, identity, and the way the mind builds stories that keep us trapped in suffering.

She also describes The Work as more than a technique: it is a way of meeting experience without insisting that reality be different. From kindness in relationships to the role of the victim, from shadow work to the limits of describing enlightenment, Martha keeps returning to the same essential invitation: look within, question the thought, and see what remains when the story loosens.

Martha’s simple message — “Go within or go without” — runs through the whole interview, along with her emphasis on humility, integrity, and the possibility of living more fearlessly and honestly right now.