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Elon vs. Trump: Is This the End of the New Right?
In this episode, we delve into the escalating feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Our discussion touches on the origins of their disagreement, including the implications of Elon's resignation from Doge, differing political ideologies, and the tensions surrounding a significant budget reconciliation bill. We also examine the broader impact on the tech right and the Trump administration, the role of JD Vance, and the potential future of the right-wing movement. Additionally, there are reflections on political loyalty, the sustainability of government spending, and humorous tangents on unrelated personal anecdotes. Tune in to get the full breakdown of this high-stakes political drama.
Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I am actually not so excited to be here with you today. I do not like what's going on right now. Between Elon and Trump, there has been a big falling out, a big fight that's been happening online. I mean, like it has gone. Nuclear on both sides. and, and people may ask, oh, is this the end of the tech?
Right? No, it's not like this is, this is a fight that while I am disappointed in the people involved in it I. I did not expect more for them. If anything, I'm kind of amazed they kept things going for as long as they did. Mm-hmm. And they didn't fall to the progressive nonsense. If anything, it almost feel like this fight happened as soon as the progressive stopped trying to drive them apart because now they could have a falling out without it looking like they were tricked into it by progressives.
That's a fun theory. I, I think that ironically the months and months of progressives trying to do stories like, oh, president Elon and stuff like this ended up with Trump and Elon feeling like they can't break up without making it look like Progressives won. And then Elon leaves his job with the administration, and I'll note here.
He left his job with the administration. Like Doge is still operational. Like my brother, little brother works for Doge. Everything he set up was already on sort of auto when he left. Right. And I'll also note here that just because Elon has decided to who create a, a beef with Trump that does not mean that the tech right has a beef with Trump.
Mm-hmm. This is a personal issue. This is not an issue really. Of of politics. There was a political angle to it that started a lot of it. But this is not something that changes the tech rights opinion. And I'll note when people hear the tech right, they think tech workers, when really, I think a better way to think of the tech in that is the right, that is downstream of the online communities like four Chan and Gamergate and all of that.
That's right. Like yeah. Asma Gold I would see as a more central figure in the tech right than Elon in terms of sort of culture setting and idea generation. Mm-hmm. Like if, if, if somebody like Asma goal or like Nino or us came out and are like, we are anti-Trump now or we are anti MAGA now, like I would be like the tech right has a major issue like correct.
That two really big. Egos who you know, had, had worked together for as long as they did actually. Like, I kind of respect them both more just as they kept it going for as long as they did, because I did not expect it is
Simone Collins: really, they're such strong personalities that kind of I see as only being able to, they can only be one in the room.
And yet there were so many instances of both in the same room, both working together, both sharing the headlines. Yeah, it felt so crazy. And I mean, nothing that has happened recently undoes what Elon Musk did, which was play a pivotal role in getting President Trump elected. And role, I mean, Trump
Malcolm Collins: denies that.
Let, let's, let's put it, what I would say is I don't, I I'm, I, I wouldn't say that Trump would definitely have been elected without Elon's help. I'm saying he might hav
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