Episode Details

Natalie Brunell is joined by Saifedean Ammous, economist and author of The Bitcoin Standard, for a deep-dive conversation on sound money, Bitcoin's future, and his upcoming book, The Gold Standard.

Topics discussed include:

• An inside look at The Gold Standard and whether Saifedean believes a gold-backed framework may reemerge
• Wealth concentration under fiat vs Bitcoin
• The rise of corporate Bitcoin treasuries and the broader institutionalization of Bitcoin
• Why we don't need inflationary money
• Is Bitcoin infinitely divisible?
• Why Saifedean thinks we're approaching a Bitcoin cycle top right now
• Saif's reaction to selling over 1 million copies of The Bitcoin Standard and its impact on the ecosystem

Guest Bio: @saifedean is an economist and professor of economics at the Lebanese American University. He is the author of The Bitcoin Standard, which has become a seminal work on Bitcoin's role in monetary history, and now The Gold Standard, exploring the case for a return to gold-backed money. Follow Saif on X at https://x.com/saifedean

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