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Jenny Chen Robertson

In an empire of numbness, where sedation is sold as salvation,

One woman dares to weaponize wisdom and baptize bureaucracy in the psilocybin sacrament.”

Jenny is not a facilitator.

She is a forger of frameworks,

A cartographer of care,

Turning risk-reduction into revolution.

She walks the fault line between clinical ethics and ecstatic experience—

MBA-trained, yes—

But with soul credentials inked in sweat, in silence,

In sacred listening.

She’s briefed lawmakers with the calm of a nun and the clarity of a sniper.

She’s testified with tremors in her voice and steel in her spine.

Her resume reads like a paradox:

Real estate magnate turned mycelial matriarch.

Spreadsheet whisperer turned soul doula.

Jenny co-founded the Safer Psychedelics Association of New England

Not to play nice with power—

But to redefine it.

She speaks for the trip-gone-sideways,

For the mothers who don’t trust “the system,”

For the cops confused by consciousness,

For the firemen called to burning minds.

This isn’t harm reduction—it’s harm revolution.

This isn’t education—it’s uncolonized knowing.

She doesn’t just talk set and setting—

She re-sets the setting of the entire conversation.

So lean in close, fam—

Because when Jenny speaks,

The old paradigm doesn’t just shudder—

It begs for a blindfold.

And the future?

It’s already listening.

SPAN: Safer Psychedelics Association of New England

Jenny Chen Robertson

On Psychedelics, Safety & the Psyche

1. In a world obsessed with optimization, what does it mean to heal rather than just function?

3. Do you think crisis is a rite of passage we’ve medicalized into silence?

🏛️ On Systems, Legislation & the Sacred

6. What happens when you place a mystical medicine in the machinery of the legal system? Who gets rewritten—the law or the soul?

7. You’ve spoken to lawmakers—how do you translate altered states into legislative language?

10. Do you ever feel the psychedelic movement is in danger of becoming another arm of the empire it once rebelled against?

💀 On Death, Integration & the Edge

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