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3rd Antinatalist Terrorist Attack!
In this thought-provoking episode, the hosts dive into the unsettling world of antinatalism and its most extreme branch, efilism. The conversation begins with a tragic recent event—a suicide attack by an antinatalist—and draws parallels to previous attacks like Sandy Hook and the Christchurch Mosque shootings. The hosts explore the ideologies behind antinatalism, highlighting its logical inconsistencies and the dangerous zealotry it fosters. They discuss the rising prominence of these beliefs and their association with dark personality traits. The discussion also touches upon the implications for future societal trends and the ethical considerations of right-to-die policies. Strap in for an in-depth analysis of one of the most controversial and disturbing movements of our time.
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Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. We unfortunately just had the, third suicide attack by an antinatalists.
And we, just for context, this is the third, because the first was Sandy Hook in 2012.
And then the second was the Christ Church Mosque shootings in 2019. Both were perpetrated by people who were antinatalists, either literally part of the movement, like familiar with the philosophical concept of eism, which is the extremist branch of Antinatalism, which is like, oh, let's also remove life without other people's consent.
And, yeah, that was Adam Lanza. We'll get more into Adam Lanza. I want to at least. But the
Malcolm Collins: point being is Antinatalists, and this is something where it's, it's a very large community. They're probably as large as the perinatal list community. If you look on Google Trends, if not larger, actually I
wanna argue that actually it's, it's quite larger.
It's larger than you think.
Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Which we'll get into later. But what they believe is that humanity would be better off not existing. And [00:01:00] what the phylis believe, which this latest suicide attack , was motivated by, is that we also have a duty to sterilize all other life, or quote unquote glass the planet.
So that nothing can evolve sentt again. So we're gonna be getting into these beliefs. It's been a while since I. Explained why they're really stupid and actually the I ideas behind them. While they make sense, if you do not allow them to be challenged by any sort of outside logic, the moment you apply like outside practical logic to them, they begin to fall apart really quickly.
And so it's a weird sort of logical framework and that it has internal consistency. I'll admit that. But it lacks basic logic. So we're gonna get into like, way more details than anyone has covered on this. Do, do you want to get started, Simone?
Yeah. So just to give the, the basics, a 25-year-old man named Guy Edward Barcus.
Bombed the exterior of a fertility clinic [00:02:00] in California. This, I think, injured for employees. No one else was killed but him. And he
Malcolm Collins: also did not destroy the embryo tanks. He only damaged the waiting room. Yeah. So fortunately he only killed himself and injured other people. However, in his video confession, 30 minutes, not video,
it was like audio.
Audio. Confession maybe. Audio
Malcolm Collins: confession. Yeah. He admitted that he. Thought he might end up killing people, and he didn't care because he didn't think the lives of anyone working at an IVF clinic had value.
Well, and he also, so being someone who he calls himself a pro mortals, he's, he's also clearly eist, clearly Antinatalists links to in his written manifesto, which he also provided a bunch of links to eism websites and content.
He. It says in his spoken manifesto that. Per his life philosophy. Couples who use IVF are amongst the most, the worst form of what he calls pro-lifers, which I think is really funny 'cause most [00:03:00] people who
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