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In this episode, Matt and Enn discuss Chapters 37 & 38 of Robert Jordan's The Shadow Rising from the Wheel of Time series! No mules were harmed in the making of this episode, or the trip to Imre Stand. This week Elayne's advocate Aviendha is laying it on thick, and we meet a mysterious woman names Isendre (Sure, Jan.) We also get some new perspectives from an unsavory bunch including Liandrin who is looking to relocate to someplace a little more regal.

• Ch. 37: Imre Stand
• Ch. 38: Hidden Faces

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