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Make Money By Not Chasing Money | Rj Kurtz, Nicole Sandalis, Emmanuel Umoh, Tchassa Kamga, Lisa Jacovsky | Ep 717 | Throwback

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"I believe the greatest way to make money is to not focus on making money, but to focus on a passion on helping somebody." - Ross

Join Niiamah (@niiamahashong), RJ Kurtz, Nicole Sandalis, Lisa Jacovsky, Tchassa Kamga, and Emmanuel Umoh for an inspiring throwback roundtable on leveraging passion over perfection. These authentic leaders share how they've turned personal struggles into thriving businesses while embracing vulnerability and letting go of limiting beliefs.

Welcome to the Outlier's Edge Podcast, hosted by Niiamah Ashong, Founder of Outlier's Edge and Sherpa of the World of Difference. On this podcast, you'll join other high-performing unconventional leaders and entrepreneurs (aka Outliers) as they talk about leveraging what makes them different to make a difference in the world.

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Host introduces roundtable

00:05 - Explains Outlier's Edge concept

00:25 - Welcomes five leaders

00:58 - RJ Kurtz introduces himself

01:21 - Discusses Real Talk podcast

01:54 - Values passion over money

02:22 - Nicole Sandalis introduces herself

02:43 - Discusses podcast Revive

03:21 - Emphasizes personal healing journey

04:24 - Lisa Jacovsky introduces herself

04:31 - Award-winning children's author

04:44 - Hosts No Limits podcast

05:25 - Creates special needs cats books

05:59 - Tchassa Kamga introduces himself

06:06 - Moved to US in 2018

06:22 - Publishes poetry collection

06:39 - Works as Salesforce admin

07:05 - Creates immigration reality content

07:42 - Emmanuel Umoh introduces himself

08:07 - Hosts Business Talk podcast

08:42 - Discusses behind-the-scenes business struggles

09:19 - Emphasizes product-market fit importance

09:48 - Shares business failure story

10:46 - Host transitions to mistakes discussion

11:16 - Asks about changed beliefs

11:52 - RJ Kurtz discusses passion over hunger

12:50 - Lisa Jacovsky agrees with passion

13:13 - Mentions children's book dreams

13:42 - No MBA needed for success

14:36 - Has published 10 books

15:53 - Emmanuel Umoh shares nine-to-five limitations

16:16 - Business needs more attention

17:15 - Discusses business growth phases

18:02 - Nicole Sandalis mentions perfectionism mistake

18:21 - Analysis paralysis stifles progress

19:33 - Tchassa Kamga discusses family support misconception

20:12 - Hard work doesn't guarantee success

20:44 - Leverage is more important

21:36 - RJ Kurtz agrees about family support

22:27 - Support comes after success

23:48 - Emmanuel Umoh emphasizes smart work

24:44 - Discusses LinkedIn strategy improvement

25:50 - Nicole Sandalis values community collaboration

26:19 - Announces new podcast concept

26:42 - Lisa Jacovsky discusses taking chances

27:30 - Work smarter not harder

28:31 - Host emphasizes leveraging strengths

29:38 - Host asks about scary projects

32:56 - Tchassa Kamga discusses teaching tech

33:37 - Fear of student responsibility

34:50 - Lisa Jacovsky shares author collaborations

35:21 - Working with unfamiliar author

36:02 - Second collaboration opportunity

36:54 - RJ Kurtz plans for law school

37:23 - High-risk education decision

37:50 - Motivated by fatherhood experience

38:11 - Wants to help fathers' rights

39:03 - Host begins wrapping up

39:44 - Final insights shared

40:02 - Lisa Jacovsky learns about family support

40:58 - Nicole Sandalis feels less alone

41:39 - Emmanuel Umoh appreciates passion's value

42:49 - Tchassa Kamga recognizes hidden stories

44:24 - RJ Kurtz values time leverage

45:59 - Host con

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