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Donald Trump's tariff policies pose an economic threat to Rochester Hills, Michigan — and Republican Mayor Bryan Barnett has not been shy about speaking out.

"More robots are made in my city than in any other city in North America," Barnett told Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed and former Philly Mayor Michael Nutter, along with Citizen Co-founder Larry Platt, in the latest episode of the podcast. "Our two biggest trading partners — and it's not even close — are Canada and Mexico."

Barnett has held onto the mayoral office for an astounding 18 years — in no small part because of his unique style of "governtainment," as well as the realization that cities are firmly in the business of customer service.

"Our competition isn't who you think: It's Amazon," Barnett says. "If you can get something delivered to your house from across the world in 24 hours, but it takes four or five visits to city hall to get a dog license, people say this just doesn't make any sense. Most mayors are more practical than political, so while I am Republican, most of my day-to-day work is solving problems for our community."

"What you're doing is good for the soul of the country," Reed tells him.

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