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The difference between sex and gender is fundamental to how we talk about trans people. But what if it obscures the richness of life outside of gender norms?

There is so much more to gender non-conforming people than this academic, middle-class, distinction – so says Jules Gill-Peterson, a historian at Johns Hopkins University and the author of A Short History of Trans Misogyny.

In conversation with Eleanor Penny, Gill-Peterson reaches back into the past to explain what it means to be a queen, why trans women do sex work, and how to reignite the celebration of femininity as a cornerstone of feminist politics.

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