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When to use OpenAI's latest models: 4.1, o3, and o4-mini (Ep. 444)

When to use OpenAI's latest models: 4.1, o3, and o4-mini (Ep. 444)

Episode 444 Published 8ย months, 4ย weeks ago
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Intro

With OpenAI dropping 4.1, 4.1 Mini, 4.1 Nano, O3, and O4-Mini, itโ€™s been a week of nonstop releases. The Daily AI Show team unpacks what each of these new models can do, how they compare, where they fit into your workflow, and why pricing, context windows, and access methods matter. This episode offers a full breakdown to help you test the right model for the right job.


Key Points Discussed

The new OpenAI models include 4.1, 4.1 Mini, 4.1 Nano, O3, and O4-Mini. All have different capabilities, pricing, and access methods.


4.1 is currently only available via API, not inside ChatGPT. It offers the highest context window (1 million tokens) and better instruction following.


O3 is OpenAIโ€™s new flagship reasoning model, priced higher than 4.1 but offers deep, agentic planning and sophisticated outputs.


The model naming remains confusing. OpenAI admits their naming system is messy, especially with overlapping versions like 4.0, 4.1, and 4.5.


4.1 models are broken into tiers: 4.1 (flagship), Mini (mid-tier), and Nano (lightweight and cheapest).


Mini and Nano are optimized for specific cost-performance tradeoffs and are ideal for automation or retrieval tasks where speed matters.


Claude 3.7 Sonnet and Gemini 2.5 Pro were referenced as benchmarks for comparison, especially for long-context tasks and coding accuracy.


Beth emphasized prompt hygiene and using the model-specific guides that OpenAI publishes to get better results.


Jyunmi walked through how each model is designed to replace or improve upon prior versions like 3.5, 4.0, and 4.5.


Karl highlighted client projects using O3 and 4.1 via API for proposal generation, data extraction, and advanced analysis.


The team debated whether Pro access at $200 per month is necessary now that O3 is available in the $20 plan. Many prefer API pay-as-you-go access for cost control.


Brian showcased a personal agent built with O3 that created a complete go-to-market course, complete with a dynamic dashboard and interactive progress tracking.


The group agreed that in the future, personal agents built on reasoning models like O3 will dynamically generate learning experiences tailored to individual needs.




Timestamps & Topics

00:01:00 ๐Ÿง  Intro to the wave of OpenAI model releases


00:02:16 ๐Ÿ“Š OpenAIโ€™s model comparison page and context windows


00:04:07 ๐Ÿ’ฐ Price comparison between 4.1, O3, and O4-Mini


00:05:32 ๐Ÿค– Testing models through Playground and API


00:07:24 ๐Ÿงฉ Jyunmi breaks down model replacements and tiers


00:11:15 ๐Ÿ’ธ O3 costs 5x more than 4.1, but delivers deeper planning


00:12:41 ๐Ÿ”ง 4.1 Mini and Nano as cost-efficient workflow tools


00:16:56 ๐Ÿง  Testing strategies for model evaluation


00:19:50 ๐Ÿงช TypingMind and other tools for testing models side-by-side


00:22:14 ๐Ÿงพ OpenAI prompt guide makes big difference in results


00:26:03 ๐Ÿง  Carl applies O3 and 4.1 in live client projects


00:29:13 ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ API use often more efficient than Pro plan


00:33:17 ๐Ÿง‘โ€๐Ÿซ Brian demos custom go-to-market course built with O3


00:39:48 ๐Ÿ“Š Progress dashboard and course personalization


00:42:08 ๐Ÿ” Persistent memory, JSON state tracking, and session testing


00:46:12 ๐Ÿ’ก Using GPTs for dashboards, code, and workflow planning


00:50:13 ๐Ÿ“ˆ Custom GPT idea: using LinkedIn posts to reverse-engineer insights


00:52:38 ๐Ÿ—๏ธ Real-world use cases: construction site ins

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