Episode Details

Welcome to tech in 2025, where everything's made up and the numbers don't matter. Nilay, David, and The Verge's Jake Kastrenakes start the show by running down the latest tariff news, the uncertain future facing tech companies of all sizes, and what we're learning so far about how they're responding. After that, the hosts talk about a big week in AI news, including Meta's sketchy benchmark numbers and the latest damning reporting about the future of Siri. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for America's favorite podcast within a podcast, Brendan Carr is a Dummy, along with some news about the TikTok ban and the Pixel 9A. And then some more tariff numbers, because they just never stop.

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• Sony adds three new speakers to bass-boosted ULT Power Sound lineup
• Sony seemingly bakes tariff penalty into its new US TV pricing
• Samsung’s The Frame Pro was never going to be cheap — and it isn’t
• Trump’s tariffs are officially in effect, including 104 percent on China
• China retaliates with additional 50 percent tariff on US goods
• Trump announces a ‘90-day pause’ on tariffs outside of China
• Trump believes iPhones can be made in the US, says White House
• Get your screwdrivers ready.
• Apple quickly shipped 600 tons of iPhones to ‘beat’ the new tariffs
• Trump triples tariffs on low value packages from China and Hong Kong
• Some Shein and Temu ‘haul video’ creators are stocking up
• Shein’s supply chain uncertainties.
• Amazon is already changing its ultra-cheap Temu copycat
• Framework stops selling some of its cheapest laptops due to Trump tariffs
• Framework delays Laptop 12 orders in the US over tariffs 
• Framework will open US preorders for Laptop 12 after all: tomorrow, starting at $549.
• Framework raised prices and then un-raised them an hour later because of Trump<