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In this episode, we continue our deep dive with retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke—a man whose job wasn’t just catching spies but recruiting them.

Dreeke led the FBI’s elite Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, where he mastered the art of predicting human behavior. He turned foreign operatives into informants—not with force, but with trust. 

Now, he’s sharing the same tools that can help you avoid fraud, betrayal, and toxic relationships in everyday life.

In part one, we peeled back the curtain on his high-stakes career in counter espionage against Russian operatives in the United States. 

Now, in part two, Dreeke reveals how you can learn to think like an FBI behavioral analyst. How to see the red flags before they wave. How to spot manipulation before it wraps around your life. And how to use behavior patterns—what he calls “behavior arcs”—to make better decisions about who you can trust.

If you’ve ever been lied to, blindsided, or left asking how did I not see that coming?—this episode is for you.

Dreeke is the author of “Sizing People Up”, a book I recommend every listener study and underline. 

His short guide, “It’s Not All About Me”, offers a crash course in building rapport in any situation.

Let’s get into it—here’s part two of my conversation with Robin Dreeke.

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