Episode Details

In this episode, host Janae Pierre and WNYC Albany reporter Jon Campbell explore the complicated relationship between Mayor Eric Adams and Governor Kathy Hochul. On the surface, the two leaders are ideologically aligned — both are centrist Democrats and both are eager to distance themselves from past mayor/governor feuds. But the relationship has unraveled. Adams, who is still facing federal charges, has largely been abandoned by his party and increasingly aligned himself with Trump. For her part, Hochul — a party loyalist — isn’t defending him. But she’s also not removing him from office, even as top Democrats have called for her to act. Why and what does it say about her leadership?