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Hey everyone, Alex here 👋

Welcome back to ThursdAI! And folks, what an absolutely insane week it's been in the world of AI. Seriously, as I mentioned on the show, we don't often get weeks this packed with game-changing releases.

We saw Google emphatically reclaim the #1 LLM spot with Gemini 2.5 Pro (and OpenAI try really hard to hit back with a new ChatGPT), DeepSeek dropped a monster 685B parameter open-source model, Qwen launched a tiny but mighty 7B Omni model that handles voice and video like a champ, and OpenAI finally gave us native image generation in GPT-4o, immediately unleashing a tidal wave of Ghibli-fication across the internet. It was intense, with big players seemingly trying to one-up each other constantly – remember when Sam Altman dropped Advanced Voice Mode right when Google was about to show Astra? This weeks was this, on steroids.

We had a fantastic show trying to unpack it all, joined by the brilliant Tulsee Doshi from the Google Gemini team, my Weights & Biases colleague Morgan McQuire talking MCP tools, and the MLX King himself, Prince Canuma. Plus, my awesome co-hosts Wolfram, Nisten, and Yam were there to add their insights. (watch the LIVE recap or keep reading and listen to the audio pod)

So, grab your beverage of choice, buckle up, and let's try to make sense of this AI whirlwind! (TL'DR and show notes at the bottom 👇)

Big CO LLMs + APIs

🔥 Google Reclaims #1 with Gemini 2.5 Pro (Thinking!)

Okay, let's start with the big news. Google came out swinging this week, dropping Gemini 2.5 Pro and, based on the benchmarks and our initial impressions, taking back the crown for the best all-around LLM currently available. (Check out the X announcement, the official blog post, and seriously, go try it yourself at ai.dev).

We were super lucky to have Tulsee Doshi, who leads the product team for Gemini modeling efforts at Google, join us on the show to give us the inside scoop. Gemini 2.5 Pro Experimental isn't just an incremental update; it's topping benchmarks in complex reasoning, science, math, and coding. As Tulsee explained, this isn't just about tweaking one thing – it's a combination of a significantly enhanced base model and improved post-training techniques, including integrating those "thinking" capabilities (like chain-of-thought) right into the core models.

That's why they dropped "thinking" from the official name – it's not a separate mode anymore, it's becoming fundamental to how Gemini operates. Tulsee mentioned their goal is for the main line models to be thinking models, leveraging inference time when needed to get the best answer. This is a huge step towards more capable and reliable AI.

The performance gains are staggering across the board. We saw massive jumps on benchmarks like AIME (up nearly 20 points!) and GPQA. But it's not just about the numbers. As Tulsee highlighted, Gemini 2.5 is proving to be incredibly well-rounded, excelling not only on academic benchmarks but also on human preference evaluations like LM Arena (where style control is key). The "vibes" are great, as Wolfram put it. My own testing on reasoning tasks confirms this – the latency is surprisingly low for such a powerful model (around 13 seconds on my hard reasoning questions compared to 45+ for others), and the accuracy is the highest I've seen yet at 66% on that specific challenging set.

It also inherits the strengths of previous Gemini models – native multimodality and that massive long context window (up to 1M tokens!). Tulsee emphasized how crucial long context is, allowing the model to reason over entire code repos, large sets of financial documents, or research papers. The performance on long context tasks, like the needle-in-a-haystack