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Two politicians walk into a podcast studio… and no, this isn’t the start of a bad joke. In today’s episode of Out Loud, we spill the tea on what really went down when Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and Opposition Leader Peter Dutton dropped by Mamamia for a chat. 

And we don’t want to alarm anyone on a Monday, but you might just be suffering from hurry sickness. Yes, it’s a thing, and we dive into how it’s affecting lives and sanity.

Plus, a high-profile father has taken centre stage with an emotional open letter to parents of autistic kids by saying the quiet thing out loud. We unpack the conversations it sparked – and why it matters.

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