Episode Details

In this episode, Cally talks to author and TikTok sensation Ann Russell about cleaning, cancer, clutter, community, kids, role models, boarding school, trad wives, grandmothers, alcoholism, sustainability, empathy and DIY.

Ann on TikTok

Ann’s books

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Produced by Mike Hanson for Pod People Productions

Music by Jake Yapp

Cover design by Jaijo

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