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Back to Episodes⏱️ Making Time: Creativity over Productivity — with Maria Bowler
Description
How do we stay creative — when there’s so much to do and so much at stake?
Today I’m joined by writer, coach, and retreat leader Maria Bowler for a practical and philosophical conversation about:
- The difference between productivity & creativity
- Why we don’t want to focus on “being efficient” or “maximizing ROI”
- How to actually be present (without feeling like you’re just being told to “be present”)
- The pain of alienation & how it permeates our daily lives
- Distinguishing between creative friction & oppressive friction
- Why creating more isn’t about doing less
- How to stretch time, lose track of it, and be with yourself beyond the clock
- What Maria thinks about social media this year
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