Episode Details

Toni Natalie join me to talk about her new book 'The Program: Inside the Mind of Keith Raniere and The Rise and Fall of NXIVM." Also discusses what it is like to date the smartest man in the world and how she survived decades of harassment from Raniere and his devotees.
This episode was produced by Ati Abdo MacDonald.
Buy Toni’s book here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1538701065/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ackJDbS70BSHG