Episode Details

Stephen Kotkin, Kleinheinz Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, joins the show to discuss how both sides have lost the Ukraine War, and the risks of various routes to peace.

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Times 

    •      02:47 Pressuring Putin

    •      12:50 A new path

    •     17:07 Avoiding a debacle   

    •      32:43 Friends

    •     38:30 Realignment

    •      46:58 Articulating strategy

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