Episode Details

The world of international relations was shaken as the US held talks with Russia to end the war in Ukraine. The relationship between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky has soured, with Trump calling Zelensky a "dictator" and accusing him of doing a "terrible job." Zelensky has fired back, claiming that the US President is trapped in a "disinformation space" fuelled by Russia.

On this episode, Caitríona Perry is joined by Sumi Somaskanda, who is in Berlin to cover the German elections, and Bernd Debusmann, who has been travelling with President Trump aboard Air Force One. Together, they explore the implications of this dramatic turn in global politics.

Producers: Charlie Jones and Aisling Taylor

Sound engineer: Hannah Montgomery

Editor: Sergi Forcada Freixas